tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293273378239831747.post6482999601395493941..comments2024-02-18T08:45:16.295-08:00Comments on The Film Connoisseur: Conan (2011)Franco Macabrohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10994905312221715861noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293273378239831747.post-17458365928184549502011-12-05T04:27:45.213-08:002011-12-05T04:27:45.213-08:00@The Sci-Fi Fanatic: If a good film is what you we...@The Sci-Fi Fanatic: If a good film is what you were expecting, than forget it man. This Conan dissapoints in my book. <br /><br />Now in the other hand, if you want a half assed Conan film, be my guest! It does have a couple of cool moments here and there, but as a whole, it's definetly a mess. <br /><br />Not even the musical score compares to the awesomeness of Milius's Conan. You know that grand orchestral score thats so memorable on the original? This new one replaced it with a really generic and unimpressive one! Sad but true...<br /><br />If anything, see this new "Conan Film" as a curiosity.Franco Macabrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10994905312221715861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293273378239831747.post-13926542073452930372011-12-03T06:16:54.986-08:002011-12-03T06:16:54.986-08:00ALl I can tell you is that Conan was on my MUST bu...ALl I can tell you is that Conan was on my MUST buy list. I was really excited to see a Jason Momoa as Conan film after enjoying his on Stargate Atlantis.<br /><br />Week after week of bad news soured me and then along comes the latest installment of The Film Connoisseur and literally dismantles my hope and dream of a good film. You have singlehandedly taken it off my list.<br /><br />I appreciate the review and comments here. Clearly this is a mess of a film. I'm going to reserve two hours to waste on something else. Oh well. Cheers sffSFFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04256589316922398158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293273378239831747.post-79665067374846106952011-12-01T05:26:46.046-08:002011-12-01T05:26:46.046-08:00Venom5: I went in not expecting much, because of M...Venom5: I went in not expecting much, because of Marcus Nispel's involvement. I hated Pathfinder when I saw it; to me it was a cheap Conan rip-off. And now that Nispel got the chance to make a real Conan film, he does this? Such a wasted opportunity.<br /><br />I agree, Milius's Conan is extremely iconic, which should have been reason enough for the filmmakers to put that extra effort to do a film that could be at that same level of quality, or surpass it. But alas, what we got was what we got. People like good well written characterization, it lets us know the character, but they ignored all of this and went for dumb action. The original balanced both elements very well. <br /><br />The part about him being a pirate was cool, but did you feel the ship was a bit small? That it didnt really feel like a pirate ship, but more like a toy pirate ship? <br /><br />Savage sword of Conan was such a cool magazine! I had a couple of issues myself. Loved reading them. I'm going to buy the collected editions, which are onsale at Amazon, it will be fun reading through those. <br /><br />Thanks for commenting man! <br /><br />Fritz: So your saying this was a "re-imaging" rather then a remake? I wasnt aware of this, it is referred to as a remake all over, and they do have similar plot lines, especially when it comes to Conan's parents being killed by a strange religious cult. But it's true, they went their own storyline about the magical mask that would bring back the evil witch. In that way it was similar to Mario Bava's Black Sunday, which was also about the resurrection of a powerful evil witch. <br /><br />I've read some Conan comics (collected them for a while) like Savage Sword of Conan and King Conan and plain old Conan. Loved those comics, but I've never read Robert E. Howard's books, Im looking forward to them though. In this sense, I dont know much about Howard's universe, all I know about Conan as a character comes from the films, and the comics. I need to get down and reading those books. Sad to hear neither of the films has truly captured what Howard created. <br /><br />Yeah, Milius's Conan wasnt a huge hit, but at least it wasnt a turkey like the new one. Plus, its quality as a film has garnered its space in popular culture. So much so that people still love to watch these old Conan films, I know I do. <br /><br />Thanks for commenting Fritz!Franco Macabrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10994905312221715861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293273378239831747.post-56709271082579138232011-11-30T18:32:05.840-08:002011-11-30T18:32:05.840-08:00I’m not going to waste my time defending the new C...I’m not going to waste my time defending the new Conan the Barbarian film, because it just isn’t good enough to expend my time or effort on. You do surprise me, Francisco, when you state that Conan the Barbarian is a “remake” of the 1982 Conan film, because your reviews are usually well researched. The new film is a new version of the Conan character as written by Robert E. Howard for Weird Tales back in the 1930’s and not intended as a remake of the 1982 film. I’m not a big fan of the 1982 film, for the same reason I didn’t like the 2011 film. Neither film used the original stories as a basis for a plot; nor did they utilize much in the way the Howard’s Hyborian fantasy setting or characters, other than the names.<br /><br />I like to think the reason that the Harry Potter films and the Lord of the Rings films were so successful, both critically and financially, is because they only altered or omitted slightly, plot devices and characters from their literary source. If the films had only used the names of the characters, but made up completely new plots for their films – as filmmakers have now done TWICE with Conan – I suspect they too would have had little to no success at the box office.<br /><br />Yes, the new Conan film performed poorly at the box office. The 1982 film only made $39 million domestically and cost around $20 million to make. So unlike the new film it did make money, but it was hardly a blockbuster even by 1982 standards.Fritz "Doc" Freakensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13209589620766485745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293273378239831747.post-22159185769958262562011-11-30T17:12:56.698-08:002011-11-30T17:12:56.698-08:00Tell us what you really think about the film, Fran...Tell us what you really think about the film, Fran, lol!<br /><br />I didn't necessarily hate it in the same breath as I did the CLASH OF THE TITANS remake, although we'll likely never see the alleged original version of that one prior to studio interference. I guess going in with low expectations and coming out feeling no more disappointed than I expected to helped a lot on this one.<br /><br />The original CONAN is just one of those movies that is so much a part of the American lexicon it doesn't matter who did it, nothing would compare on quite the same level as the '82 film. It was nice to see Conan as a pirate (albeit briefly) as he is depicted in a number of the stories, but this and everything else is a jumbled mess as if the makers are afraid of boring the audience with things like logic and characterization.<br /><br />And so what if the Milius version wasn't 100% faithful to the material? Neither was this one.<br /><br />An interesting note on the original CONAN movie, I was looking through a bunch of my old Savage Sword of Conan the Barbarian magazines when they were touting the film during its production and there's some storyboards of how the film was originally conceived to begin as opposed to what ended up being shot.venoms5https://www.blogger.com/profile/13655919099947763891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293273378239831747.post-28931256354916588082011-11-30T04:09:16.921-08:002011-11-30T04:09:16.921-08:00Odenat: You know what? I never thought of it that ...Odenat: You know what? I never thought of it that way, but yeah, if this movie lost money (or didnt make as much as they expected) its their fault we wont be seeing another Conan movie any time soon. And boy was this one a big time box office bomb! The film cost 90 million and only made 48 million back, damn that officially makes it a big ass turkey of a movie! A stinker! A box office bomb! <br /><br />I guess they got what they deserved, had they made a decent movie they would have made their money back.Franco Macabrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10994905312221715861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293273378239831747.post-67962133034877495382011-11-29T19:22:18.959-08:002011-11-29T19:22:18.959-08:00You are right about all you write from line 1 to t...You are right about all you write from line 1 to the end. I started to watch the movie at my new 55'' T.V. guess what; i fell asleep during a Conan movie !<br />The movie is a big disappointment and it's a financial disaster. I guess there would be no other Conan movies for the next 30 years because of these moronsodenathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16101175561103761095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293273378239831747.post-60767976945558720202011-11-29T11:31:25.076-08:002011-11-29T11:31:25.076-08:00@Jack: I too am that kind of a Conan fan, I love t...@Jack: I too am that kind of a Conan fan, I love that musical score the film opens with. Actually, the whole score for the film is so memorable and moving. <br /><br />@J.D.: I was sooo curious to see that Robert Rodriguez version of Red Sonja, Rose McGowan was going to be Sonja, but I that project never came to be and she settled for a smaller role on this one. She does die a pretty gruesome death on this one though! Gory!Franco Macabrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10994905312221715861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293273378239831747.post-81933555840715687502011-11-29T11:24:17.074-08:002011-11-29T11:24:17.074-08:00Yeah, thanks for the warning. I figured this new o...Yeah, thanks for the warning. I figured this new one was crap. I mean, how can you outdo the original? you can't. Plain and simple. Still, I'd love to see Robert Rodriguez take on RED SONJA. Too bad it looks like he won't be doing it anymore.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08164105442273577128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293273378239831747.post-30619909344894894562011-11-29T08:33:59.049-08:002011-11-29T08:33:59.049-08:00Thanks for the warning. I too love Milius' fil...Thanks for the warning. I too love Milius' film - to the point where I can probably recite all of its minimalist dialogue.<br /><br />Sad to hear this is such a bad film. Will probably catch this on TV in a year or so. Can't bring myself to pay good money.Jack Thursbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03101157160144955486noreply@blogger.com